do the other witnesses with whom you associate/once associated in general know that you are an apostate or have apostate inclinations?
the reason for the phrase "in general" is that it may be the case that one or two close friends know how you feel, but others in general do not.
in my own case, one other witness knows, but no one else, so i would answer the survey question with a "no".
So the purpose of the question is to try to determine how common "undercover apostasy" is
Pretty common i imagine, I personally knew elders that in private chats didn't agree fully with what the FDS were putting out.
My bsc once said that if the FDS became apostate and tried to introduce a teaching that wasn't biblical that he would DA and stick with the bible.
do the other witnesses with whom you associate/once associated in general know that you are an apostate or have apostate inclinations?
the reason for the phrase "in general" is that it may be the case that one or two close friends know how you feel, but others in general do not.
in my own case, one other witness knows, but no one else, so i would answer the survey question with a "no".
No - I don't see any of my old crowd anymore
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Firarms are legal here dvw - always have been always will be.
Who wants to see my Bazooka?
lol
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there's a couple of posts on here tonight about a carton with dubs trying to convert a muslim terrorist and it got me thinking.. does anyone here personally know of any muslim converting and becoming a dub?
i imagine it must be a huge step for someone doing that, it goes against their religion and their ethnic cultures.
Whats next Suicide Witnesses?Knock Knock Whos there? KABOOM
Jesus Eagle - don't give the society ideas .. exploding sheep
Yeah you can imagine the PO sending them out to people like Gary B and Danny H to do a little job for Jehovah
ive sometimes wondered how the governing body would celebrate the memorial.
i imagine that they would probably all be together, perhaps dressed in robes with fake haloes; possibly made from old wire coat hangers and tinsel.
in this way, along with the bread, wine and nisan the 14th thing, theyd be going for realism.
I imagine that they would probably all be together, perhaps dressed in robes with fake haloes; possibly made from old wire coat hangers and tinsel.
You can just imagine the younger bethelite workers taking the piss dressing the senile old bastards up like this and them not having the marbles not to realise whats happening to them. I wonder, is it a sin to dribble and crap yourself during the memorial?
the watchtower used to say that most people got disfellowshipped for immorality.
do you think this is still the case?
it seems to me that i am hearing of as many people leaving over apostasy as over immorality, or am i just hanging out in the wrong circles?.
I think sex will always be the top reason for being Df'd, its just human nature and doesn't require the work involved in going out there and doing the research to find out the "truth" is a crock of shit. I do however believe Elders would try and get you on anything else other than apostasy. Think about how bad it sounds coming from the platform when name after name is read out as no longer being one of Jehovah's witnesses and a talk on apostasy is given. It sounds to the rank and file that somethings definitely wrong and that the Elders, the spiritual shepherds of the flock are failing in there duties.
I also am finding a lot of old friends that were disfellowshipped for sex, but now they are out are looking on the internet and realise it is not the truth, so have stopped planning to go back. Disfellowshipping is starting to be counter productive.
I faded but still believed. Had I still been in I would have followed the orgs instructions and stayed away from religious apostate sites and so would never have found out the REAL truth. However the elders lost this little sheep and I was able to see for myself exactly how bad the Wolves really are. Far from being the Religious Nutters that I was once warned about I've found a bunch of ordinary people. Bit of a let down really.
g'day rude people,
brother gumby is without doubt the most annoying poster in this whole system of things he posts long and loud and without fear or favour and he's 'merican too and we all know how annoying that can be.
yesterday the apostate news broke the story of gumby's kingdom hallperversion.
Before anyone asks - no the doc ain't me posting to meself or nuth'n.
Abso bloody lutely i'm dinky di, wouldn't get me saying "fair dinkum" 'n playing the ocker like that.
Lamb brained Larrikin !
what are your morals like since leaving the organisation?
each and every day we are faced with situations which call on our morals.
today i had a friend aproach me to say he's met a married woman and what did i think.
One of, if not the most important part of being a dub for me was treating others as I'd like to be treated myself. When I left the org I tried to stick to that, the rest of my morels went down the pan to begin with but I never did anything to hurt anybody else. As I grew older and wiser the old habits started to catch up again. They're not the old morels though. I no longer smoke not because of Jehovah but because of the health risks, I don't go out and do party drugs anymore not because of Jehovah but because they don't bloody work anymore and I'm too bloody old.
The sex with attached people thing I've done because it was handed to me on a plate and because back then I used to think with my dick but afterwards I would tear myself up inside about doing it. Now if I were single and in the same situation I probably definitely wouldn't do it again. Its not worth the self hate or the pain it would cause to the husband / boyfriend that's being betrayed.
Growing up in the truth you don't really "grow up" you're not your own person, rather you are this clone that thinks and acts like every other brother and sister. You don't have your own morel code, you have the orgs instead. Leaving the "truth" mean leaving that morel code behind and means learning your own morel code of whats right and wrong for YOU.
I have no time for the Judica because I am having sex with all the Jehovahs Witness singles that I found online
I thought the wtbts shut down www.sluttysinglesisters.com
6. the brain is a "dissipative structure" and self-organizes around a least-action principle of minimizing a certain uncertainty relation.. .
this quote is actually talking about the "uncertainty principle" - part of quantum physics... but it made me think of something else,.
do you find as you get older, you become less obsessed with working out all possible outcomes of a situation and trust your senses, or even yourself to determine a course of action.
As I've got older I tend to discard the options that have an outside chance of happening and instead concentrate on those options which probably will happen. I think its down to confidence, the older you get the more confident you are in your decisions. Then again it might not be confidence, it might be arrogance.
